Justice Ian Nordheimer released the Information to Obtain search warrants that contained the contents of Kathy Ford’s two interviews earlier this year with Toronto Police detectives.
In the interview, Kathy Ford said she, her brother, accused drug dealer Alexander “Sandro” Lisi and Michael “Jugga” James were in her basement last April 26 when James surreptitiously recorded her and the mayor smoking the crack that James supplied to them. Kathy Ford said she knew that it was James who made the video.
She discovered that the drug party was being recorded “when it was featured in The Globe and Mail and the reporters started calling her for a comment,” the document stated.
It’s alleged that James wanted to sell the video to the media. James, who provided the drugs to the Fords, sought a six-figure sum for the video.
Kathy Ford also told Toronto Police detectives Gary Giroux and Joyce Schertzer that her brother never beat up his pal Lisi, but was simply play-fighting, that night.
Giroux and Schertzer are heading up Project Brazen 2, an investigation into any possible crimes committed by Mayor Ford.
The photos of the Fords smoking crack were revealed in The Globe and Mail in April and later through an interview with James in The Toronto Star.
Kathy Ford told detectives that an “intoxicated” but not high Rob Ford was driven to her home by his driver, Jerry, who departed after dropping the mayor off.
The mayor’s sister said Lisi and James took no drugs. She said James “sells heroin, cocaine and crack cocaine,” but neither her brother nor Lisi knew that James was supplying the drugs on April 26.
Kathy Ford said her brother “was getting loud and boisterous” and then James left. She said she has known James for “about two years.
James, who is black or “Guyanese,” was brought up in Rexdale and has a white mother and black father.
There was no mention of Mayor Ford using racial epithets against James or tossing pennies at him as a sign of disrespect, which was reported earlier in James’ interview with the Star.
Lisi, a friend of Ford and his former occasional driver, is facing drug charges and an extortion charge for allegedly attempting to retrieve an infamous Rob Ford crack video last year from alleged drug dealers who were trying to sell it to the Star and Gawker.
Lisi is on bail with a condition prohibiting him from assocating with anyone with a criminal record, the document states. Kathy Ford’s criminal record has been widely reported in the media so Lisi “would have known about Kathy Ford’s record and that he wasn’t supposed to associate with her,” the document states.
The release of the documents was delayed until Wednesday so that lawyers for James and Lisi could have an opportunity to make submissions on whether the material should be made public.
James was charged with possession of a dangerous weapon — brass knuckles — but had that charge stayed, which means it is no longer before the courts, although the charge can technically be re-activated by the Crown within a year.
Jugga, 20, is known to be involved in the drug world, but has no convictions, the documents indicated.
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Here are highlights of court documents released Wednesday. None of the allegations have been tested in court:
Kathy Ford and her brother, Mayor Rob Ford, were smoking crack in her Rexdale basement while her daughter slept upstairs.
Kathy Ford said drug dealer Michael “Jugga” James “just showed up” at her door and she invited him into her basement.
Once inside the basement, James supplied crack cocaine to both Fords while Alexander Sandro Lisi watched and James surreptitiously videotaped it with his cell-phone. He aimed to sell it for a six-figure sum to the media.
Rob Ford was “getting loud and boisterous” when James left.
Kathy Ford said she never knew she was being recorded until it was featured in The Globe and Mail.
Lisi and Ford didn’t know James, but Kathy Ford knew him for about two years. He sold heroin, crack cocaine and cocaine.
Mayor Ford was intoxicated, but wasn’t high, when he arrived at his sister’s home.
Kathy Ford remembered this event because it occurred on the night of a power failure when one of the hydro poles at Kipling Ave. and Dixon Rd. caught fire.
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